[Domesteading 00217] Re: query

[John E. Johnson]

You guys should know a few things about concrete domes from 36 years
experience perspective. Yeah, it's seemingly a good marriage between a great
shape and a strong product but the darn things have a tendency to crack and
seep in the most hard to find locations. 
 Any concrete man I know will tell you concrete inevitably cracks.
 I know I'm stepping on a few toes with this statement, but as in the case
of this wonderful concrete dome church they built in Bham Al, I met a local
roofing company who had been called in to find and fix leaks already. This
dome fell once during construction and is full of leaks. It may not be the
domes fault. It may be the contractor's or the foundation. I haven't been
called in on this one but I do know one of the people who have tried to fix
it. No permanent luck so far.
  With that said, I realize there probably have been improvements made in
the product.  I was "invited" to the very next AI dome school to disprove my
observations on repairs made during my years of experience. The "invitation"
was made 3 years ago. Do you suppose they have had any of these classes yet?
 Give me a good wooden framed kit with a good grade of fiberglass shingle 
(We use ELK almost exclusively) any day. If part of it gets damaged in a
hurricane or the neighbor's house comes apart and impacts it, you can always
replace the shingles. Plus you don't have to glue on your drywall...channel
out for wires...or have to drill through to the exterior to hang a dadblamed
ceiling fan with the corresponding nut and washer on the EXTERIOR of the
dome. We had one concrete dome here in Alabama which had the foam
insulation.( not sure who's kit it is) Fire ants started building their
homes up in the foam and NOTHING would kill them or drive them out. Seems
like they would open up new tunnels and drop in unannounced on the
occupants. Imagine getting a ice restful sleep in your vacation home and
wake up to find yourself covered with biting ants.
 The owner had to abandon the home. It happened folks... I do not
exaggerate.
 John E. Johnson
newagedomeconstruction.com

-----Original Message-----
From: domesteading-bounces at sculptors.com
[mailto:domesteading-bounces at sculptors.com] On Behalf Of Robert Vance
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 9:29 PM
To: A forum for the discussion of aspects of independent,off-the-grid living
Subject: [Domesteading 00215] Re: query

Karen, The greatest thing about this list is that you  only have to ask, and
you will get great information and direction - Sal is correct in his advice,
so look into it and you will be amply rewarded!
BobV!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sal Cerda<mailto:sal.cerda at rocketmail.com> 
  To: A forum for the discussion of aspects of independent,off-the-grid
living<mailto:domesteading at sculptors.com> 
  Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:53 AM
  Subject: [Domesteading 00213] Re: query


  Karen,
  There are a couple of dome makers that I know of who use concrete.
  American Ingenuity makes domes from concrete-filled triangles. Monolithic
uses an inflated form with sprayed foam and concrete.
  There are several other dome groups you can join, including the Domelist
and DomeLiving on Yahoo Groups.
  Sal

  Karen <zania7 at yahoo.com<mailto:zania7 at yahoo.com>> wrote: My apologies for
intruding, I signed up for your email on a dome group.   I am seriously
wanting to build a dome. I notice that you (responders to the group) are
focused on geodesic domes, seemingly in wood or other materials other than
concrete, at least from what I have been emailed so far (star plates etc).
I live in 
  Florida and wonder who out there is interested or knows about some kind of
a concrete dome?

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