[Domesteading 00147] Re: Discussion reinitiates

J & D Goldman jmgoldma at dwx.com
Wed Apr 4 18:49:03 PDT 2007


Sal,
  I don't have any such glitches here. Might pay to run down some of
those problems.

The archives have a good record of extensive discussion that took
place on this list in the early 2000's, but dropped off for some
reason.

- Dan G.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sal Cerda <sal.cerda at rocketmail.com>
To: A forum for the discussion of aspects of independent,off-the-grid
living <domesteading at sculptors.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: [Domesteading 00143] Re: Discussion reinitiates


>I'm suspicioning (Ozarkian?) that the domestead list also suffers
from some of the same ailments as the domelist.  For example, I did
not receive the post from Chris except as included in you posting.
>Also, your posting was found in my Bulk folder. Perhaps the spam
filters are working overtime and throwing out the baby with the
bathwater?
>
>So does anybody on this list talk about domesteads (domes as
homesteads)?
>
>Sal
>Dome owner-builder
>
>J & D Goldman <jmgoldma at dwx.com> wrote: I have the same observation
about the dome list.  Several years of
>flowing conversation followed by several years of drought. Maybe this
>list should be nicknamed Cicada.
>
>Thanks for posting the meeting information.  I heard a news report
the
>other day where some expert was claiming that carbon emissions from
>"buildings" dwarfs anything exhausted by vehicles.  If that is the
>case, the energy efficiency of domes should at least get them on some
>lists of things to talk about.  As Rob Conroy points out, some of the
>excuses for domes being "difficult" are dissappearing, as the
computer
>makes these more complex geometries easier for people to tackle
>themselves and get it right.  The tools are cheaper than they ever
>were (compount miters sell for peanuts now), and the materials are
>improving, with more biodegradeable structural choices appearing
>daily.  I'm still impressed with honeycomb panels for low weight,
high
>strength and superior insulation.  Now you can even get concrete that
>is light permeable so it glows during the day.
>
>- Dan G.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris
>To: A forum for the discussion of aspects of independent,off-the-grid
>living
>Date: Monday, April 02, 2007 8:43 PM
>Subject: [Domesteading 00136] Re: Information
>
>
>>Hey... I'll chime in her to say that I've received nada from this
>list for
>>quite some time... then suddenly y'all struck up this
conversation...
>Me
>>thinks that, perhaps, this list may not return a copy to the sender
>of their
>>own post??? Anyway, I'll soon find out . In the interim,
>perhaps all
>>y'all (which is gramatically correct Ozark Redneck Southernese ---
>just in
>>case you didn't know ) will enjoy the news release (below)
>about an
>>energy.climate event we're coordinating April 14th. Wish I'd of
>thought to
>>tell ya about it sooner... It would be great to have somebody there
>stumping
>>for the energy efficiency of domes... ~Christine
>>
>>DATELINE: March 31, 2007
>>Citing EPA statistics, "The U.S. emits over 7.6 thousand-million
>metric tons
>>of greenhouse gases annually,"  Ruth Reynolds, coordinator of the
>Step It Up
>>Hardy Town Meeting, worries.  Inspired by the National Day of
Climate
>Action
>>scheduled for April 14th "Step It Up 2007",  Reynolds and several
>friends
>>are organizing the energy/climate awareness event being held that
>Saturday
>>in The Olde Hardy Gym, 203 School Street, Hardy, Arkansas.
>>
>>"The world is already committed to an eventual half-degree Celsius
>(about
>>one degree Fahrenheit) temperature increase," Reynolds continued.
>>"Day-by-day greenhouse gases relentlessly build up in the
atmosphere,
>>committing us to ever greater temperature increases. On and on goes
>the list
>>of compelling reasons to quickly enact a plethora of strong energy
>>legislation, including a federal mandate to reduce greenhouse gases
>>emissions 80% below 1990 levels by 2050."
>>
>>Open discussion of this 'list of compelling reasons' is the focal
>point of
>>the all-day gathering in Hardy, which opens at 10am with Vendor &
>>Educational displays and demonstrations that explore ways to save
>energy,
>>reduce heat-trapping gases emissions, and ensure energy and food
>security.
>>Featured technologies offer ways to increase fuel and household
>energy
>>efficiency, eliminate waste, and make every drop of energy work for
>the
>>common good.
>>
>>The Town Meeting Agenda, which convenes promptly at 12:00 noon, will
>be
>>officiated by Hardy Mayor Nina Thornton. Featured Speakers and
Topics
>>include:
>>
>>"Significant Quotes," Ruth Reynolds, Coordinator of Step It Up Hardy
>2007,
>>President of Save Our Spring River, and Member of the Sharp County
>Recycling
>>Center Executive Board, will address the range of attitudes about
>Global
>>Warming in opening remarks.
>>
>>"God's Dream," Reverend Gary Goldman, native Arkansan from
Texarkana,
>>graduate of Henderson College and Saint Paul School of Theology,
>alumnus of
>>Hendrix College and Harvard School of Business, retired United
Method
>ist
>>minister now appointed part-time with the Horseshoe Bend United
>Methodist
>>Church, will speak to the responsibility of environmental
>stewardship.
>>
>>"The Greenhouse Effect," Dr. Lawrence Coleman, a tenacious scientist
>>affiliated since 1969 with University of Arkansas at Little Rock
>(UALR)
>>Department of Physics and Astronomy, has given talks statewide on
the
>>science of global warming and the physics of the greenhouse effect.
>His talk
>>is augmented by a Power Point presentation. "Melting glaciers,
>earlier
>>springs, vanishing polar ice. these things have all happened in the
>past. So
>>the real question is Why are they happening now?  Why do scientists
>believe
>>that humans are now causing global warming and, more importantly,
>what can
>>be done to avoid the worst effects by acting responsibly, rationally
>and
>>soon?"
>>
>>"A World of Possibilities," Sandie Cloud, member of the Board of
>Directors
>>serving as head of the Retail Committee of the Hemp Industries
>Association
>>(HIA), and proprietor of For Mother Earth Norfork and For Mother
>Earth
>>Hardy, will address the carbon-neutral possibilities of hemp as an
>>environmentally and economically friendly resource for fuel, food,
>fabric
>>and building materials.
>>
>>"BioEnergy," Ron Bell, Vice President of the Arkansas Association of
>>Resource Conservation and Development Council (RC&D), Chairman of
the
>>Arkansas Energy Office, Bioenergy Services Contractor and Farmer
will
>>address ongoing developments of the North Central Arkansas Bioenergy
>>Program, the Central Arkansas Biodiesel Infrastructure Project and
>The
>>Arkansas Bioenergy Policy Council in the endeavor to replace
>fossil-fuels
>>with renewable/sustainable agricultural products.
>>
>>The Town Meeting will conclude with a "Q & A Forum," moderated by
>Mayor
>>Thornton taking comments and questions from the floor addressed to
>these and
>>other topical experts, including Robert Reed of American Spirit
>Energy Homes
>>and Christine Beems of Gozarks, followed by the hallmark signature
>action of
>>every nationally affiliated Step It Up 2007 event: a public 'photo
>op' to
>>stand in support of the nationwide rally of over a thousand unique
>events
>>and activities being held this same day, stumping for Congress to
cut
>CO2
>>emissions 80% by 2050.
>>
>>Subsequent to the photo-op, exhibit and vendor booths will reopen
>until 4pm
>>when the program concludes with a Drum Ceremony and the Award of
Door
>>Prizes, including such environmentally friendly things as
fluorescent
>light
>>bulbs, organically grown garlic, potted plants, and gift
certificates
>for
>>ecologically healthy merchandise.
>>
>>"I wish to extend special thanks to all the volunteers who are
making
>this
>>event happen," Reynolds acknowledged. "Reasons why people become
>>environmentalists are various. I'm just thankful that a few of them
>had the
>>time and inclination to help stage our local rally. It is exciting
to
>be one
>>of thousands of Step it Up participants who believe we must find and
>>implement the ways and means to control and diminish our seemingly
>>insatiable addiction to fossil-fuels. Saturday, April 14th, is a
good
>day to
>>send this message to Congress."
>>
>>All Step It Up Hardy activities are open, free of charge, to the
>general
>>public. Picnic lunches are welcome and lawn chairs are encouraged.
>Bleacher
>>seating is available, first come, first serve. For more information,
>visit
>>www.StepItUp2007.org or  www.LocalEnergyMatters.info or contact Ruth
>>Reynolds, 870-257-4596. ~~~~
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "ROBERT VANCE"
>>To:
>>Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:28 PM
>>Subject: [Domesteading 00135] Re: Information
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sal,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response! No, I haven't abandoned the domelist but
>it seems
>>> that I am no longer connected to it! In that case, if you have any
>idea on
>>> how I can re-connect to it - please let me know! I've sent some
>messages
>>> to the address that I have but haven't received anything in
>return -
>>> including the list itself!
>>>
>>> Bob Vance
>>> mailto:naptimeatv at msn.com
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Sal Cerda
>>>>Reply-To: "A forum for the discussion of aspects of
>>>>independent,off-the-grid living"
>>>>To: "A forum for the discussion of aspects of
>independent,off-the-grid
>>>>living"
>>>>Subject: [Domesteading 00133] Re: Information
>>>>Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:09:34 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>>Hey there Robert.
>>>>I don't know the answer to your questions, but I do know that we
>miss you
>>>>over at the domelist.  Hope you haven't abandoned us.
>>>>
>>>>Sal
>>>>Than
>>>>Robert Vance  wrote: The instructions are clear
>to
>>>>post information and access the archives but how do I get daily
>>>>submissions?
>>>>Bob Vance
>>>>mailto:naptimeatv at msn.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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